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Post by The Shadow on Jul 31, 2008 14:54:02 GMT -5
I'm not telling you anything. I'm not sure where the confusion is here. Here's your order of thinking, I guess...
1. Former WWE guys make no difference in attendance 2. Call To Arms had 3 former WWE guys and was the best attendance ever 3. THUS, AS YOU CAN SEE, former WWE guys have no effect on attendance
I think I have that right.
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Post by stylesclash516 on Jul 31, 2008 14:59:00 GMT -5
how many people would Tanaka actually draw? Would there be any more people at the show then there would be if Tanaka wasn't there? To be fair, this is pretty much true of anyone who isn't an ex-WWE guy. When you said that, you implied that only ex-WWE guys would bring a greater amount of people and i'm trying to prove to you that that's not true.
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Post by The Shadow on Jul 31, 2008 15:10:23 GMT -5
To be fair, this is pretty much true of anyone who isn't an ex-WWE guy. When you said that, you implied that only ex-WWE guys would bring a greater amount of people and i'm trying to prove to you that that's not true. You're trying to prove it by using as an example a card that had more ex-WWE guys than any other N~Conal (i.e. not Night of Legends) IWC show ever.
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Post by stylesclash516 on Jul 31, 2008 15:17:48 GMT -5
A Call To Arms 1 had: Dusty Rhodes Jerry Lawler Mic Foley Shane Douglas Raven This show had a greater amount of ex-WWE guys so A Call To Arms 4 night 2 didn't have the most ex-WWE guys and the show only brought in about 200 people. Think before you type.
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Post by jwf on Jul 31, 2008 15:26:26 GMT -5
"When you said that, you implied that only ex-WWE guys would bring a greater amount of people and i'm trying to prove to you that that's not true. "
Stylesclash, don't show that "Fed guys don't draw better than Indy guys" by pointing out that the biggest shows IWC has done in recent history are also the shows that have had the most WWE alums on them. You are working against yourself on that one... and possibly causing an aneurysm in The Shadow.
And CtA:4 Night two was much better than 200 people.
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Post by The Shadow on Jul 31, 2008 15:28:52 GMT -5
I think he was implying that Call To Arms 1 had only 200 people, when IWC's own website lists it as 1100, WAY more than either night of CTA 4.
In either case, the logic isn't working here.
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Post by jwf on Jul 31, 2008 15:37:52 GMT -5
No, but Stylesclash is 15. He hasn't had the chance to get a firm grasp on "logic" and "sentence structure."
Oh, and happy belated birthday, Styles.
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Post by MJL on Jul 31, 2008 20:25:03 GMT -5
Thanks MJL, you just proved my point even more. Nope, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention and I didn't believe I did it anyway. I just corrected you at that moment. BTW, dude the rest of this thread, I have no idea what you mean.
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Post by stylesclash516 on Jul 31, 2008 22:20:38 GMT -5
MY POINT IS, YOU DON'T NEED EX-WWE GUYS TO DRAW A LARGER CROWD THAN USUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And there is absolutely no possible way that A Call To Arms 1 had 1,100 people in attendance.
As far as im concerned, both of you can go to hell.
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Post by drwrestling on Jul 31, 2008 22:36:17 GMT -5
MY POINT IS, YOU DON'T NEED EX-WWE GUYS TO DRAW A LARGER CROWD THAN USUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And there is absolutely no possible way that A Call To Arms 1 had 1,100 people in attendance. As far as im concerned, both of you can go to hell. HEY! you're a little feller and you shouldn't be saying bad words. Ha Ha
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Post by JTM on Jul 31, 2008 22:50:49 GMT -5
MY POINT IS, YOU DON'T NEED EX-WWE GUYS TO DRAW A LARGER CROWD THAN USUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And there is absolutely no possible way that A Call To Arms 1 had 1,100 people in attendance. As far as im concerned, both of you can go to hell. A Call To Arms 1 had a HUGE crowd in a much HUGEr building. There were a good thousand+ people there. And calm down. You did get a little confusing in there. I got lost halfway through. Where the hell did this discussion turn from Masato Tanaka to ex-WWE guys being a draw?
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Post by iwcpromoter on Aug 1, 2008 5:40:34 GMT -5
Is he maybe confusing Call to Arms 1 with Call to Arms night 1?
N~Con
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Post by jwf on Aug 1, 2008 8:26:52 GMT -5
"MY POINT IS, YOU DON'T NEED EX-WWE GUYS TO DRAW A LARGER CROWD THAN USUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Then to help make this point, you should list shows that drew well WITHOUT having ex Fed guys on it. You keep listing shows that drew well and had fed guys.
And no, you don't have to have ex WWE talent on a card to draw. However, due to WWE's saturation of the market and the superstars constant exposure, booking an ex-Fed guy can help draw. Doesn't mean they are better or even more popular, it just means that they had the help of New York to become more recognizable.
No, it's not ANY fed guy, and no, it's not ANY show. But, if done properly, it helps. That is why if you have a stint with WWE (especially a sucsessful one) on your resume, you can N~Conally ask for more than the other indy wrestlers.
Calm down Stylesclash. No need to damn us all to hell, we are just trying to clarify your point.
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Post by stylesclash516 on Aug 1, 2008 9:01:41 GMT -5
A Call To Arms Night 1 had a huge crowd and had NO ex-WWw guys on it. This thread switched when Shadow said that only ex-WWE guys would draw a larger crowd than usual.
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Post by tydawson on Aug 1, 2008 9:12:42 GMT -5
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